This is a good question. There are literally thousands of people that wish daily that barrier windows would go out of business, and that the owners would all be thrown in jail.
This most likely will not happen because the owners of barrier are very rich and powerful. They are related to congressman michael arcuri (josephine's maiden name is arcuri), and tax records show that they have transactions associated with each other in the past. We are not sure how much pull arcuri has with keeping barrier windows from being shut down, so do not assume directly this is why, but it just looks fishy to us.
Also, barrier calls people all over the state and most of their customers are older shut ins, or people that just havent ever thought of home improvements before so they have no clue about the company. Any one who has heard of barrier almost always has nothing but terrible things to say.
Barrier window systems is a very wealthy and powerful company that will most likely be very difficult to bring down. They have the money for the best lawyers and whenever a customer sues them it just gets shut down quickly through settlement or endless lawsuits. It would be nice if they just would treat people with respect and charge a fair price but that will probably never happen.
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
What will barrier window systems do for an estimate
Barrier window systems will do everything they can to get you to let someone in your house to show you windows. It is almost always under the pretense of winning a sweepstakes. Keep in mind that should you be the very rare winner, you actually do not win the windows for free, you have to pay gift tax which counts as income. Each window will be taxed to you in the amount of roughly $1000 per window as income which you will need to pay tax on at the end of the year.
Once you set an appointment, you will be continuously called and called and called for as long as humanely possible. A barrier sales rep will show up at your house, and act really nice (they are trained to). They will first "warm up" to you for roughly half hour trying to earn your trust. Then they will take some measurements and start pitching you on the barrier window systems company, the barrier window products, blah blah blah. They are trained and under orders to spend at least 2-3 hours in each house! Yes they will do everything in their power to stay at least 3 hours in your home so they can pressure you into making a buying decision. They will pull out every tactic and pressure the heck out of you. They will make numerous phone calls to their manager kirk hilts or the owner tony cadieux telling these complete fibs about the advertising budgets, or a big order up in the north country that they can group with your order right now!
All of this is an act, and is a lie. There is no big order going on that will make your windows cheaper, and the script they say is told daily for years and years, it is all a completely fabricated story of nonsense.
Should you be able to get them out of your house without buying, you will start receiving phone calls most likely the next day from someone saying that they are willing to even lower the price again.
Once you set an appointment, you will be continuously called and called and called for as long as humanely possible. A barrier sales rep will show up at your house, and act really nice (they are trained to). They will first "warm up" to you for roughly half hour trying to earn your trust. Then they will take some measurements and start pitching you on the barrier window systems company, the barrier window products, blah blah blah. They are trained and under orders to spend at least 2-3 hours in each house! Yes they will do everything in their power to stay at least 3 hours in your home so they can pressure you into making a buying decision. They will pull out every tactic and pressure the heck out of you. They will make numerous phone calls to their manager kirk hilts or the owner tony cadieux telling these complete fibs about the advertising budgets, or a big order up in the north country that they can group with your order right now!
All of this is an act, and is a lie. There is no big order going on that will make your windows cheaper, and the script they say is told daily for years and years, it is all a completely fabricated story of nonsense.
Should you be able to get them out of your house without buying, you will start receiving phone calls most likely the next day from someone saying that they are willing to even lower the price again.
Barrier window PRICES
Hey potential customers of barrier window systems! Hopefully you read this in time.
First of all, there is no such thing as a Barrier Window. They do not make their own windows like most of the salespeople will tell you. They buy their windows from whatever company at the moment is willing to deal with them. They basically will change their window selection every few years so that they don't have to honor warranties, or they just piss off the manufacturer.
Regardless, the windows are very high quality, however they are severely over priced and you can find better quality for much much less elsewhere.
The barrier salesperson will quote you somewhere around $1500-$1800 PER WINDOW!!
Yes that is PER WINDOW. Barrier window systems have their prices set so ridiculously high that it is insane. And this price is just for a regular double hung window!
If you get conned into paying this much for a window, the salesman will make 20% on commission! That means on a ten window job, it will cost roughly $15,000 to you, and the salesrep will get $3000 in commission! We are not kidding about this, it is the truth.
If you keep saying no, then the price will keep going down and they will call their boss kirk hilts over and over until the price will finally be offered to you for as low as $600 per window. Yes they will go from $1800 to $600 if you keep telling them no. The windows are triple pane, and the double pane versions will go as low as $400.
The reason they will come up with lowering the price so drastically? They want you to put up a sign in the lawn! Ok that makes alot of sense huh! Its nonsense because it just means the salesman couldnt pressure you into buying right now, and he is just trying to make a sale, although instead of making 20% he is more likely now making 1 or 2 percent. Or in some cases nothing.
All barrier wants to do is pressure you into buying something. They will stay in your home for hours until they have tried everything.
Don't fall for this crap, and if you for some reason feel the need to buy windows from them, please do not pay any more than $600 per window because that is all they are fairly worth. Believe me they will NOT turn you down on that offer, even if you wait a few days before the final yes.
Oh just so you know, the actual price of the window to barrier is about $110 each window, but they have to cover their extremely high advertising costs. The window really is only worth about $450 at most but fairly it could be priced for $600 no more.
Oh and siding....don't pay any more than $400 per square. They will try to get you to pay over a thousand per square.
First of all, there is no such thing as a Barrier Window. They do not make their own windows like most of the salespeople will tell you. They buy their windows from whatever company at the moment is willing to deal with them. They basically will change their window selection every few years so that they don't have to honor warranties, or they just piss off the manufacturer.
Regardless, the windows are very high quality, however they are severely over priced and you can find better quality for much much less elsewhere.
The barrier salesperson will quote you somewhere around $1500-$1800 PER WINDOW!!
Yes that is PER WINDOW. Barrier window systems have their prices set so ridiculously high that it is insane. And this price is just for a regular double hung window!
If you get conned into paying this much for a window, the salesman will make 20% on commission! That means on a ten window job, it will cost roughly $15,000 to you, and the salesrep will get $3000 in commission! We are not kidding about this, it is the truth.
If you keep saying no, then the price will keep going down and they will call their boss kirk hilts over and over until the price will finally be offered to you for as low as $600 per window. Yes they will go from $1800 to $600 if you keep telling them no. The windows are triple pane, and the double pane versions will go as low as $400.
The reason they will come up with lowering the price so drastically? They want you to put up a sign in the lawn! Ok that makes alot of sense huh! Its nonsense because it just means the salesman couldnt pressure you into buying right now, and he is just trying to make a sale, although instead of making 20% he is more likely now making 1 or 2 percent. Or in some cases nothing.
All barrier wants to do is pressure you into buying something. They will stay in your home for hours until they have tried everything.
Don't fall for this crap, and if you for some reason feel the need to buy windows from them, please do not pay any more than $600 per window because that is all they are fairly worth. Believe me they will NOT turn you down on that offer, even if you wait a few days before the final yes.
Oh just so you know, the actual price of the window to barrier is about $110 each window, but they have to cover their extremely high advertising costs. The window really is only worth about $450 at most but fairly it could be priced for $600 no more.
Oh and siding....don't pay any more than $400 per square. They will try to get you to pay over a thousand per square.
A note to Anthony Cadieux, Josephine Cadieux, and Kirk Hilts
Hello owners of barrier window systems. In case you are reading this, which Im sure you are...We would like to say some things that unfortunately we cannot while working.
Ms Cadieux...You are an evil evil person and we can all see exactly where tony gets his childish behavior from. You stink up the bathroom constantly too, its very unprofessional. When you scream at the top of your lungs every few days because something stupid happened, you probably think that we are scared but really we all laugh and make fun of you! No one cares about your diamond ring either, or your car because it is all paid for by the poor customers that get tricked into buying the high priced windows.
Tony Cadieux...Oh where do we start. Every day you throw one of your stupid childish tantrums that you think gets everyone scared. As soon as your not around we all make fun of you and make fun of how much an idiot you look when you get mad. The more angry you get, the more stupid you look. I bet the customers would love to know how much you make fun of them! No one respects you, and every one knows that you do not care one bit about us or the customers. Oh and we all know about your little habit too ;]
Kirk Hilts...Stop telling people that they cannot cancel within three days because the product is already in. Its a complete lie and you know it. You are a liar just like tony and josephine cadieux.
Barrier window systems probably started with good intentions, but over the last thirty years through all the name changes, and lawsuits, and the death of joseph cadieux, it has turned into a severely greedy machine that emits lie after lie after lie.
Ms Cadieux...You are an evil evil person and we can all see exactly where tony gets his childish behavior from. You stink up the bathroom constantly too, its very unprofessional. When you scream at the top of your lungs every few days because something stupid happened, you probably think that we are scared but really we all laugh and make fun of you! No one cares about your diamond ring either, or your car because it is all paid for by the poor customers that get tricked into buying the high priced windows.
Tony Cadieux...Oh where do we start. Every day you throw one of your stupid childish tantrums that you think gets everyone scared. As soon as your not around we all make fun of you and make fun of how much an idiot you look when you get mad. The more angry you get, the more stupid you look. I bet the customers would love to know how much you make fun of them! No one respects you, and every one knows that you do not care one bit about us or the customers. Oh and we all know about your little habit too ;]
Kirk Hilts...Stop telling people that they cannot cancel within three days because the product is already in. Its a complete lie and you know it. You are a liar just like tony and josephine cadieux.
Barrier window systems probably started with good intentions, but over the last thirty years through all the name changes, and lawsuits, and the death of joseph cadieux, it has turned into a severely greedy machine that emits lie after lie after lie.
How barrier window systems gets their customers
Lets talk about how barrier window systems get their customers. They mostly get them from telemarketing and sweepstakes advertising. They cold call customers from between 9am to 1pm, and then from 4pm to 8pm.
The telemarketing manager is paul carcone.
Barrier buys lists of customers contact information and a computer system automatically dials the numbers so that the telemarketers of barrier window systems just have to talk. They read a script talking about how you can win free windows or siding from barrier window systems and that they want to measure what you could win up in case you won anything free from barrier windows.
They do actually have a contest, but most of the time they lie and say there are other contests going on in your particular county (which is often completely untrue).
They solicit you on the phone so that they can get you to allow a salesperson to come out to your home and pressure you into buying their overpriced windows.
The telemarketing manager is paul carcone.
Barrier buys lists of customers contact information and a computer system automatically dials the numbers so that the telemarketers of barrier window systems just have to talk. They read a script talking about how you can win free windows or siding from barrier window systems and that they want to measure what you could win up in case you won anything free from barrier windows.
They do actually have a contest, but most of the time they lie and say there are other contests going on in your particular county (which is often completely untrue).
They solicit you on the phone so that they can get you to allow a salesperson to come out to your home and pressure you into buying their overpriced windows.
Barrier Window Systems
Barrier window systems, or barrier windows is located in westmoreland new york. However there are also locations in schenectady(albany), vestal(binghamton), Syracuse, Rochester, and Kingston NY as well. They cover a very large area of upstate ny.
This blog about barrier window systems or barrier windows came about because past and present employees, and customers have been so fed up with this evil company.
This blog about barrier window systems or barrier windows came about because past and present employees, and customers have been so fed up with this evil company.
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